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Mike Singh
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Hi All

Lets say I have blended an image or I have just 1 image. I want to make adjustments to the highlights, shadows and midtones using targeted LMs. How do I go about doing this?

I've tried to do this in Raya Pro but when I create another LM for an adjustment, it just replaces the previous LM and I lose my 1st adjustment. Can anyone help please?

Mike

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Grant Swinbourne
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There are a couple of ways to do this.

1. First create an adjustment layer of the type that you want, then use either IM or RGB tabs to create the mask your looking for, then apply it to the adjustment layer.

2. Use the Zone Contrast tool under the DB tab.  This creates specific curves adjustment layers for 6 tonal ranges, 2 each for Midtones, Shadows and Highlights.


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Mike Singh
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@grant-swinbourne Thanks I’ll try your suggestions. So I make a new adjustment layer first then create the targeted mask and apply it?

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Grant Swinbourne
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@mike-singh

Correct.  In IM there is a Test which shows what the mask will do when applied to the adjustment layer, and an Apply button which commits the mask to the layer.

When you've got the mask you want, click on the layer you intend to apply it to and then click on either Test or Apply.


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Mike Singh
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G'day @grant-swinbourne your technique worked! Thanks a million.

Mike


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Great advice Grant.


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Grant Swinbourne
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Posted by: @mike-singh

G'day @grant-swinbourne your technique worked! Thanks a million.

Cheers Mike, glad it worked for you. 👍 


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Mike Singh
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Hi Everyone

I am still having trouble with creating multiple adjustment layers with LMs AFTER I have blended or made an initial LM adjustment. If I try the suggestions above, I create the NEW LM adjustment layer BUT then loose the previous LM adjustments in the InstaMask Group.

I have looked a the RayaPro videos but can't find a solution. I could do with a clear step by step protocol for creating multiple adjustments with LMs after a blending exposurers or doing an Initial LM adjustment.

See below images of my layers panel. The ''Initial Layers'' is after my 1st adjustments. The RGB Blue and Green layers were selected in the RGB channel as I could not get the RGB masks without losing the previous LMs. The ''New Adj LM Layers'' is what happens when I lose the previous LMs in the InstaMask Group.

 

Mike


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Mike Singh
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The ''New Adj LM Layers'' is what happens when I lose the previous LMs in the InstaMask Group. As you can see I lose all my previous layers.

 

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Grant Swinbourne
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This is my step by step.

  1. Create new Adjustment Layer
  2. Open IM
  3. Select mask you wish to apply
  4. Select the new Adjustment Layer
  5. If you wish to test the mask, click Test to view what the application of mask will look like
  6. If you are happy with the mask click Apply, if not select a different mask and Test again before Applying the mask.
  7. Make the adjustments you want to make (This step can occur as step 2 if you want to see it across the whole image. This helps if you're not sure what areas you want to affect).
  8. Create new Adjustment Layer
  9. Repeat steps 2-7

I've attached my layers showing 4 adjustment layers with LM's applied, two grouped under Test Group and two ungrouped.  I was testing to see if having them in a group could induce the behaviour you were describing.


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Mike Singh
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@grant-swinbourne

Thanks for your help. I tried your steps as above. Unfortunately the problem persists. I have attached my labeled steps layers to this post. Here are my steps in detail:

  •  STEP 1: I want to make a Brights 3 LM on top of my current layer stack
  •  STEP 2: I create a New Curves Adjustment layer (with or without the white mask - problem persists)
  •  STEP 3: I open IM, Select B3 LM
    • ALL previous LM and Layers in the Instamask Gp are replaced by the new LM Adjustment layer.
    • Photo reverts back to viewing the Base Layer with the New LM.
  • Pressing TEST/APPLY makes no difference to the above step 3.

Should I be selecting a particular layer before creating the LM?

Should the selected layer be visible or not?

 

I would really appreciate your further help.

 

Mike


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Grant Swinbourne
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Before your Step 1, have you applied the first LM?

 


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Mike Singh
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@grant-swinbourne Step 1 is the layers before I started so no LM created yet.   

Step 2, I have created a new adjustment layer on top of all layers. Next is open IM and select Brights 3 mask. After this it all goes wrong  

 

 

Mike


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Grant Swinbourne
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I'm lost as to what's happening then.  What are the layers before you attempt to add the adjustment layer?

What happens if you have a single layer image initially?  Can you add an adjustment with LM, then successfully add another one?

 


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jhsurti
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I think you must Apply the mask before you create another LM. If you don't  Apply, it will be replaced by your new mask.


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